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Anonymous asked: What do you think about the college class that was arguing Communism was the best political ideology, so the teacher gave everyone the average test grade, and eventually the average grade would drop and drop as the smarter and harder working people stopped working as hard because they felt like they were being taken away from?

amodernmanifesto:

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amodernmanifesto:

Oh that old chestnut of a thing that never actually happened in real life and is a poor metaphor.

Lets deconstruct that because it is so nonsensical I really must.

What that entire parable does is totally misunderstand the nature of both capitalist and socialist society.

Firstly, it makes the deadly assumption that capitalists (students who get good grades) get there through hard work and poor people (students who do poorly) are lazy. This is a total lie. This classroom pre-equality looks nothing like the reality of capitalism.

In a classroom that truly reflected capitalism, the kids with high grades have spent every year of their schooling lives beating up the kids who do badly, taking their stationary and forcing them to do their homework. In reality, the students with the highest grades do very little work while the kids who end up doing badly do huge amounts of labour, for which they receive no reward.

Now that we have established the classroom that looks like capitalism, lets move on to the proposed solution:

Basically, in this hypothetical class, things go on as they always had but now all marks are averaged. What this is implying is that socialists want to take the capitalist economy as it is, and simply take all the money at the end of the day and share it out evenly.

Which is not the case at all….

If this class was to now be run along collective lines, then the kids who would be doing badly would be given special help in order to encourage them to catch up on work that they had missed out on. They would be taught in ways which would allow them to best flourish as individuals. As well as this, collective and group work would be far more common, encouraging people to work together rather than compete. Standardised testing would most certainly be abolished, with new ways of determining people’s progress developed to allow them the space to express themselves. 

Generally speaking, people would be encouraged to attend, there would be less stigma for failing or being slower at certain tasks and there would be less stress in general.

Now, I have given a pretty big response to a question that isn’t even worth answering.

Good answer, though

hahahahahah i lost the argument at you saying people who get good grades dont work for while those who fail apparently work harder than anyone. i call bullshit

I was saying that is what a class would be like if it was actually similar to capitalism. The whole point of my response is to say that comparing classes to economies is a bad analogy.

I think you might have missed the point

oh no i got the point i just fail to understand it. you cannot claim that all those who partake in capitalism and do well do not work for it. thats naive.

I am happy tp claim that the wealth of the ultra rich is derived through exploitation of the vast majority. Do you think that wealth can exist without poverty? Do you think that those who are rich today did not get that way through theft?
You think I am naive? I just know my history.

im not saying that does not happen but you are making broad generalizations. Not all wealth is not earned.

The vast majority of it is not. How much value do the elites add the process of production? And how much is added by the millions of workers involved in production and distribution? Yet the elites earn many million times more than those they employ when I would argue that the vast majority if not all the useful labour is done by workers.

haha okay. yay socialism right? thats worked well. know your history.

Yep. Yay socialism!

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